Gaggia G 105 Factory at Ciao. Easy to use if you have the patience to read the manual and have some knowledge of espresso machines.

: La Pavoni EPC 8 or Gaggia Factory G105? The Krups Moka Brew is a unique way to brew great coffee, under $140! Not Logged in: >>>La Pavoni EPC 8. Author Messages Senior Member Joined: 5 Mar 2008 Posts: 4 Location: UK Expertise: I love coffee Posted Wed Mar 5, 2008, 3:53am Subject: La Pavoni EPC 8 or Gaggia Factory G105?

Hi everyone, I have been used to the Gaggia semi automatic machines for a while now, but don't have any experience with a lever machine - but have decided that I want to give it a go and have a couple of options - the La Pavoni EPC 8 or the Gaggia factory G105. Does anyone have any thoughts on which would be an easier machine to start with or produces the better espresso? Thanks for your help, -Tim Senior Member Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 2,286 Location: NA Expertise: I live coffee Espresso: Vetrano, Silvia, Olympia. Grinder: Zass. Kyle Martino. , Macap M4 stepless. Vac Pot: Yama, Bodum E Santos Drip: French Press, ibrik, Moka. Roaster: Hottop programmable, IRoast2 Posted Wed Mar 5, 2008, 5:08am Subject: Re: La Pavoni EPC 8 or Gaggia Factory G105? Looks like they're the same levers size and price wise.

What I'm reading about the Factory G105 is that it's got two switches, making it a thermostat controlled boiler. That would mean a delay to switch from brewing to steaming. The Europiccola is pressurestat controlled for both steam and brewing. Don't know if it would make a difference with a lever but pressurestats have a narrower deadband than thermostats. Pressurestats hold specific temperatures more accurately. The Europiccola is factory set for a good pressure.

I have a Europiccola and she's got good power once she comes to temp/pressure. As far as using either they're both levers with no assist. You supply and control the force. A little harder to get good at than a spring lever but offers you more control. Neither one, I'd think, would be easier or harder to use than the other considering they're both the same type of lever.

Senior Member Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 52 Location: MA Expertise: I love coffee Espresso: Gaggia Factory lever Grinder: Macap M4, Baratza Maestro. Posted Wed Mar 5, 2008, 5:30am Subject: Re: La Pavoni EPC 8 or Gaggia Factory G105? Mrgnomer Said.What I'm reading about the Factory G105 is that it's got two switches, making it a thermostat controlled boiler. That would mean a delay to switch from brewing to steaming. Posted March 5, 2008 Not true. There is one switch and an indicator light that shows when the heater is on.

The heater is controlled by a pressurestat. For all practical purposes it is the same machine as the Millennium model Europiccola. If WLL still has them on sale, it's a great bargain. Even though the machine is discontinued, maintenance and repair should not be a concern, as you can use La Pavoni parts. I have been using this machine for about a year now and am very pleased with it. I think it's a nearly perfect fit for someone who never needs to make more than 2-3 shots in a row.

Just make sure you pair it with a good grinder, ideally a stepless one for fine-tuning the grind. There is a long thread discussing this machine on home-barista.com: () Senior Member Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 2,286 Location: NA Expertise: I live coffee Espresso: Vetrano, Silvia, Olympia.

Grinder: Zass., Macap M4 stepless. Vac Pot: Yama, Bodum E Santos Drip: French Press, ibrik, Moka.

Roaster: Hottop programmable, IRoast2 Posted Wed Mar 5, 2008, 6:31am Subject: Re: La Pavoni EPC 8 or Gaggia Factory G105? Windrvr6 Earthsoft Pt2 Driver Infinity. Fac10 Said: Not true.

The Hunter Crack Offline Dictionary. There is one switch and an indicator light that shows when the heater is on. The heater is controlled by a pressurestat. For all practical purposes it is the same machine as the Millennium model Europiccola. If WLL still has them on sale, it's a great bargain.

Even though the machine is discontinued, maintenance and repair should not be a concern, as you can use La Pavoni parts. I have been using this machine for about a year now and am very pleased with it. I think it's a nearly perfect fit for someone who never needs to make more than 2-3 shots in a row. Just make sure you pair it with a good grinder, ideally a stepless one for fine-tuning the grind. There is a long thread discussing this machine on home-barista.com: () Posted March 5, 2008 'The Gaggia Factory G105 and G106 are identical to the la Pavoni Europicolla and Professional respectfully and use the same replacement parts for the lever group, boiler,sight glass, base etc. The smaller G105 incorporates a dual element and a 2-position power switch.' Senior Member Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 52 Location: MA Expertise: I love coffee Espresso: Gaggia Factory lever Grinder: Macap M4, Baratza Maestro.